Ibn Jamaa'ah's comment on a statement by Ibn Taymiyyah
Fatwa No: 275155

  • Fatwa Date:29-12-2014 - Rabee' Al-Awwal 8, 1436
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I need one clarification Ibn Kathir said: Bazzarli said: Sufis of Qaahirah objected on shaykh Taqi ud din in Shawwal. They talked with the state regarding his sayings on Ibn Arbi. They brought the matter to the Shafiee Judge. He arranged a council, Ibn Ata claimed against Ibn Taymiyyah but he could not prove it. But he said asking help other than Allah is not allowed neither we can ask help from Prophet peace be upon him, but we can take his tawassul and take his shafa`ah in the court of Allah. Someone from the audience said: There is nothing in it against him (Ibn Taymiyyah) and The Judge Badr ud din bin Jama was on the opinion that in it there is less manners [al Bidaya wal Nihaya 14/62] in above statement "The Judge Badr ud din bin Jama was on the opinion that in it there is less manners" 1. he said it regarding the statement of ibn taymiyyah or 2. Ibn Ata who claimed against Ibn Taymiyyah 3. or for the one in audience who said there is nothing wrong in these statements of ibn taymiyyah?


All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, is His slave and Messenger.

The statement of the Qaadhi Badr Ad-Deen ibn Jamaa‘ah refers to the words of Ibn Taymiyyah  may  Allaah  have  mercy  upon  him concerning seeking help from the Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam. The whole context indicates that; and Ibn ‘Ataa' and others were mentioned incidentally in the report.

Allaah Knows best.

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